Memories of a young lad nr Holmsley Aerodrome

An oral history interview with John Arnold.  Interview Date 11/06/2014

John was three at the start of the war and lived at Thorney Hill (near Holmsley). John remembers Canadians at Homsley, collecting items from the airfield, bombing of Southampton and Americans/Canadians burying equipment when they left.

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Memories of a young teenager during the first years of the war

An oral history interview with Mrs Barbara Brown.  Interview Date 13/07/2014

Barbara Brown was a young teenager during the first years of the war and was still at school. She remembers the air raids and seeing a dogfight and plane shot down. A bomb also fell close to their home. She goes on to relate some of the things that she remembers about life during those war years.

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Memories of Air Sea Rescue course and Bomber Command

An oral history interview with Douglas George Beasley.  Interview Date 16/04/13

Doug was a flight engineer in Halifax bombers stationed in North Yorkshire. Though he didn’t visit the Forest during the war years, in 1946 he came to the New Forest to do an Air Sea Rescue course at Calshot.  Doug recollects becoming an instructor after the war, his training at Calshot and some of the sights of post war Britain.

You can find out more about RAF Calshot and Eaglehurst here: RAF Calshot & Eaglehurst Overview

 

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Memories of an ‘ATA-Girl’

An oral history interview with Mrs Mary Ellis.  Interview Date 02-08-13

Mrs Mary Ellis, born in 1917 in Oxford, was a trained pilot before the war. After hearing a BBC radio advert Mary Wilkins (as she was then) joined the Air Transport Auxiliary (ATA) in 1941.  The ATA was a civilian organisation responsible for flying newly built, repaired and damaged military aircraft between factories, assembly plants, Maintenance Units (MUs), scrap yards, and active service squadrons and airfields.

By the end of the War Mrs Ellis had delivered “about 1000 aeroplanes” including bombers, fighter planes and jets flying alone without the aid of radio or other navigational aids except a map.   While based at No. 15 Pool, Hamble (which was, unusually, an all-female pool) she delivered planes to the New Forest airfields at Beaulieu, Stoney Cross and Ibsley.

Making deliveries was not without its dangers; some ATA pilots died.  The Spitfire factory at Eastleigh was surrounded by barrage balloons and, although a special flight path was arranged, flying between the barrage balloons with their attached wires was very dangerous. Mrs Ellis recollects lighter moments; on one occasion she crash-landed near the Balmer Lawn Hotel.  Neither she nor the plane was damaged but she was surrounded by a herd of interested cows, from which she was rescued by the Royal Marines billeted in the hotel. Mrs Ellis remembers constant troop movements in and out of the New Forest and the build-up to D-Day when the Hamble was so full of ships one could have walked from the mainland to the Isle of Wight.

February 2017 – Mary Ellis celebrated her 100th birthday.

July 2018 – Mary Ellis passed away, aged 101.

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Mrs Ellis has been interview by the Imperial War Museum:
Ellis, Mary (Oral history)
Catalogue number: 28595
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80026763

24 July 2018 – Mary Ellis died at her home on the Isle of Wight aged 101

Mary Wilkins Ellis

Mary Wilkins grew up in a farming family in Brize Norton, Oxfordshire. She learned to fly at Witney and Oxford Aero Club, where the directors were Mrs. Beatrice Macdonald and Mr. K. E. Walters. Read More.

Memories of an Acting Sub-Lieutenant, Special Branch, RNVR

An oral history interview with Douglas Lancelot Stuckey.  Interview Date 28/10/12

 

When Douglas joined up at a ‘Y entry’ in Charing Cross Road, he could only imagine that his naval journey would see him promoted to a temporary Acting Sub-Lieutenant Special Branch, based at the quayside at Eling Mill.  Douglas has many wonderful memories of his personal and naval life, with colourful anecdotes, particularly, a fascinating explanation of why Exbury was a central point in D-Day proceedings.

 

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Memories of an artillery man and motorcyclist

An oral history interview with Anthony Harry Mott.  Interview Date 04/11/13

Born 1925. Spray painted Horsa gliders at Airspeed Christchurch, where he flew in a test flight in an Airspeed Oxford. His father’s butcher’s shop in Christchurch was hit by incendiary bombs.  Joined Royal Artillery and rode motorcycles.  Posted to France and Belgium.  After the War, returned to Woolwich Barracks and was posted to Burma, where he joined the boxing team, and finally to Rangoon.  When he left the Army he went into teaching at Bransgore, Lymington, Hythe and on the Isle of Wight.

You can find out more about the work at Airspeed factory at Christchurch by clicking on the text.

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Memories of an entertainer

An oral history interview with Brenda Logie. Interview Date 07/10/2012

Brenda Logie was a convent school girl in Southampton when she started singing to the troops as part of a concert party. She sang at camps throughout Hampshire and the New Forest, mostly on makeshift stages of carpet covered packing cases.

Bungled into the back of army trucks, she and the band were often taken to secret camps with no names in the thicker parts of the forest. There she entertained Allied troops from America, Norway and France, as well as singing at private concerts for badly burnt troops recovering from plastic surgery at Marchwood Priory. Her most memorable evening though came in May 1945 when she was interrupted mid concert with the announcement that the war in Europe was over. The concert turned into a celebratory sing along.

Brenda said: ‘I think personally the best thing about the official celebrations which took place the following weekend was all the lights coming on again. When it’s been completely dark for four years to see lights in the windows of houses and in the few remaining shops we had left after the Blitz and in the pubs, was super.

Brenda sadly died on the 5th January 2021.

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Memories of an Ibsley Thunderbolt Pilot

An oral history interview with Colonel Jacob L. Cooper, DFC (retd).  Interviewed in 2012 by the RAF Ibsley Airfield Heritage Trust.

Jake Cooper arrived at RAF Ibsley in April 1944 as a 2nd Lieutenant replacement pilot. There he joined the 493rd Squadron, 48th Fighter Group of the 9th USAAF that had been stationed at Ibsley from March. There were three squadrons based at the airfield which made up the 48th Fighter Group: the 492nd, 493rd and 494th. The squadrons were to form part of the offensive in the build-up to D Day, on D Day itself and for a short time afterwards.

Jake and his fellow pilots flew P47-D Republic Thunderbolts from RAF Ibsley. These were fighter-bombers and missions flown comprised bomber escorts for the 8th USAAF and, largely, sorties to dive-bomb and strafe enemy positions, communications and transport in France. On D Day they flew strafing missions to support the beachhead landings and subsequently the advance of front line troops. Jake flew his eighth combat mission on D Day + 1: the day following D Day.

Jake’s billet was a Nissen Hut within the grounds of Ibsley Grange where his squadron were accommodated, while the 492nd were stationed at Cuckoo Hill, now Heywood Sumner House in Gorley.  Jake left Ibsley in late June, transported in a Dakota to an Advanced Landing Ground, A-4, located behind Omaha Beach at Deux-Jumeaux in Normandy.

You can find out more about Ibsley Airfield in this overview article, which has links to other articles relating to Ibsley Airfield

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1 – From New York to Ibsley
We all took a train from Louisiana to New York City and waited for a boat and we finally left New York on March 28th 1944. Our British ship which was named the Esperance Bay, it was converted from a transporting-type ship to a troop carrier. I mentioned our bunks before I think; they were only 3 bunks high, the room was very narrow but we spent a lot of our time up on deck. So we arrived in Portsmouth, England, waited a few days and waited a few days for transportation – land transportation – to take us to our next base, and finally got off the Esperance Bay on April 9th, 1944: Palm Sunday as I recall.
We went as a group to a place called Atcham where new pilots received what they called their Theatre Training – getting used to the tactics and procedures to be used overseas. I flew my first flight from Atcham on April 29th 1944 and accumulated only 21 hours or so of flight time there. We then, after completion of that short training period, we were assigned to various combat units in the European Theatre. Most of us at that time went to the Ninth Air Force as opposed to the Eighth which had responsibility for long-range bombing; the Ninth being a more tactical airforce supporting the frontline troops. Twelve of us who went overseas together, out of the big group, were assigned to the 48th Fighter Group which at that time was located in Ibsley in the southern part of England not too far from Bournemouth.

2 – Accommodation at Ibsley
Well, when the four of us arrived at Ibsley we were hoping to meet the rest of the pilots and hoping to stay with them but the large English, manor-type home they were assigned to had no more room for us. So there was a Nissen Hut nearby: a metal-roofed structure with a cement floor, probably 40 feet long or so, where the new pilots were assigned for quarters. It was a bit rustic but we had canvas cots and set up our living quarters and it really wasn’t that bad. But I found out later that it was very close to the house where the other pilots were staying and there was a great deal of socialising between the buildings between the buildings and in the grounds

3 – Types of mission
I think my first mission was May 23rd 1944 and I flew a total of 14 missions from Ibsley before we moved over to Normandy, and most of those missions were very short durations whereas the escort missions were 3-4 hours long. Our missions across the Channel and into France were maybe only one to what, an hour-and-a-half long. We were primarily dive-bombing and strafing the bridges, railroad yards and German positions, personnel and equipment, trucks and tanks; trying to destroy as many as we could.

4 – D Day+1 and a mission on 12.6.44
Well, it was unbelievable. First, I don’t know how many airfields there were in England but there were hundreds of airfields and the 9th Air Force, that we were a part of, had many many of these airfields and it was a stream of aircraft flying across the Channel and into France and hopefully the same number returning; of course that was always not the case. What I remember mainly was the number of ships in the Channel heading towards the beachhead and at the beachhead, and as far you could see there were ships taking part in the invasion. And I do recall, and I’ll never forget the date on June the 12th of ’44; this was slightly before we left Ibsley, we were patrolling the beachhead with the mission of preventing German fighters harassing our forces down below. We were probably 12-15,000ft and we did encounter some German fighters who were going to probably strafe and bomb the ships in the Channel. Well, we had quite a dogfight. Of course, I was flying Tony Porter’s wing and, as a wing-man, your job was to protect the tail of your Flight Leader while he was engaging in a dogfight. I was not involved very much in attacking anyone – any German fighter – I was involved in protecting Tony Porter’s tail so that he was not shot at from behind. But I think our squadron did shoot down three or four Germans that particular day.

5 – Avoiding flak
…there was…mainly at the higher altitude it was the German 88mm artillery that reached up there. And, usually you could see the puff…black puffs of smoke of the shells exploding nearby and you always…you never flew in a straight line; always in one direction and then maybe turning 10, 15 degrees in another direction, always towards the target, or towards the base, and you never flew at the same altitude: you always flew a bit higher or a bit lower because the German shells were timed to go off at a specific altitude. That was just one way to evade the German 88s. But closer to ground the German 40mm anti-aircraft artillery were very effective and usually in our low-level missions – dive-bombing and strafing – it would be a rare occasion if you didn’t come back with a few holes in the plane.

Interviewed by: RAF Ibsley Airfield Heritage Trust
Transcription by: RAF Ibsley Airfield Heritage Trust
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Memories of an Italian PoW’s gift

An oral history interview with Margaret Norcliffe.  Interview Date 11/10/13

Born 1942.  Father had a garage in Woodside Road, Southbourne, which carried out maintenance on trucks for the Army and American GIs and also from Setley. Has a toy truck made for her when she was 2 by an Italian prisoner of war at Setley (now donated to the project).  Has documents from when her father was in the Home Guard.  She learnt to drive at Holmsley South.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Memories of an RAF engineer home from the Far East

An oral history interview with Ron Ricketts. Interview Date 14/04/15

Ron Ricketts left school at the age of 14 in 1939. He lived in Frogham and recalls the bomb testing done locally, both at Ashley Walk and Millersford, but no real detail. He was then conscripted into the RAF and sent out to the Far East, where he spent most of the war, only coming home on leave on one occasion when they were celebrating VE Day. He did join the ATC but has few war memories relating to the New Forest.

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